Golden Proportion ```Name: Garrett Status: student Age: N/A Location: N/A Country: N/A Date: N/A ``` Question: I was just looking at some information about the golden proportion. One formula I saw was (a+b)/a=a/b. I want to know what a and b could equal to make this true. Replies: The golden proportion (golden ratio or golden rectangle) is 0.618. You can derive this ratio from the formula. Substitute c=b/a then 1+(b/a)=1/(b/a) and 1+c=1/c or c^2 + c -1=0 a quadratic equation that has as one of it solutions c=0.618 It is the ratio (close to 5/8) that is important not the specific values of a and b. If you construct a rectangle with the sides b/a=0.618 you can take a square from the rectangle and it will leave a rectangle with the golden ratio for its sides. You can do the same for the smaller rectangle and so on (see Parthenon in Athens). David S. Kupperman This equation states a relation between two line segments "a" and "b". Let "a" be the longer, and "b" be the shorter line segments. In words, the equation states that if the ratio of the total line, "(a+b)" to the longer segment "a" ( symbolically (a+b) < a <1) is in the same ratio as the longer segment "a" is to the shorter segment "b" (symbolically a > b > 1) then both ratios: (a+b)/a = a/b = (1+ sqrt (5))/2 = phi = ~1.618034. You are "free" to choose any "a" and any "b" you want, but notice that those choices determine "a/b" uniquely provided "a" and "b" are not zero. Your free choice also determines the other ratio too -- that is -- (a+b) / a. Perhaps an easier way to grasp what is going on is to rearrange the formula: b(a+b) = a^2 which can be rearranged further to give the equation: a^2 - ab - b^2 = 0. It now becomes apparent that once you have selected "b" for example, and require equality you have in effect fixed the value of "a" by the requirement of "... = 0 ". A specific example: Let "b = 1" then the equation reads: a^2 - a -1 = 0. The quadratic formula gives the positive root "a" = phi and the negative root: "a" = -phi^-1. If you choose any other non-zero value of "b" the quadratic formula gives the same two solutions. There are many excellent books on the topic and web sites as well, e.g.: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Golden_ratio Vince Calder One formula would be b = a(Sqrt(5)-1)/2. So, if a = 1, b = 0.618034, approximately. Paul Beem Click here to return to the Mathematics Archives

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